On the 42nd episode of The Silver Bullet Security Podcast, Gary chats with Gillian Hayes, Assistant Professor in Informatics at the Bren School of Information and Computer Sciences at UC Irvine. Gary and Gillian discuss how much people really need to know about security going on behind the scenes, how usability affects the health records security, whether or not surveillance changes how 20-somethings act in public (including on the net), and how having more women technologists positively impacts the humanization of technology.